What Message Does the Church Give? (from JT)

13 Dec

Find it in it’s original format @ veryrandomthoughts:

I wonder, what message does the church send?

Are we welcoming? Are we open?

I guess there are two errors in the messages we can send:

1. Church is for the sorted people, not the messed up

2. Church is for the messed up people, and they don’t need to change

Both are wrong.

Matt Chandler puts the correct message as:

‘It’s ok not to be ok, but it’s not ok to stay that way’

I notice that Willow creek have a conference with a great title:

Is this the message we are giving?

Titus 2:11-12 says:

For the grace of God has appeared that offers salvation to all people.  It (grace) teaches us to say “No” to ungodliness and worldly passions, and to live self-controlled, upright and godly lives in this present age,

Here we see Saving Grace and Transforming Grace. Grace means thatanyone can come to the Kingdom, but everyone who does, will change.

I wonder if churches sometimes have higher standards for getting in than staying in.

I pray that Ammanford Evangelical Church would be a church that says ‘it’s ok, not be ok…but it’s not ok to stay there…let us help you change’.

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4 Responses to “What Message Does the Church Give? (from JT)”

  1. Pete Killingley 13/12/2010 at 2:47 pm #

    Thanks Sammy for posting this – I’m just finishing an essay on the purpose of the church and will certainly be quoting the Willow Creek conference tagline! Very useful and reinforces my point!!!

    • Sammy Davies 13/12/2010 at 2:50 pm #

      Might I suggest passing the praise onto the original poster…Jonathan Thomas (Link at the top of the post).

      Out of interest what’s the essay (and what’s the class)?

  2. Andy McK 13/12/2010 at 3:53 pm #

    Good point Sammy. It can also be in evidence in some of the songs we sing. Transformation is so important.

    • Sammy Davies 13/12/2010 at 4:59 pm #

      the point is entirely(?) JT’s. We’ve been discussing and musing over it for a while. Batting the Chandler quote around.

      Music will play a key part in this aspect of Church life, you’re right.

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